Of all the rune builds players chose for Veigar vs Morgana fights, this order of runes resulted in the greatest win rate. Moreover, these runes gave a We have also included the top Morgana runes to fight Veigar in order to help you interpret how she will probably be kitted out against you. The stat comparisons shown here underscore several strategic Veigar versus Morgana counter stats that can help you figure out the differences between the pair.
This observation is largely fueled by the difference in kills. Veigar usually has a slightly larger longest kill spree than his enemy,opponent,foe,counter,matchup does. Commonly, he takes a similar amount of damage to Morgana. This typically indicates differing health capacities, but it can also imply that the champ with higher HP has less mobility and thus is not able to escape further harm when poked or engaged. Veigar usually earns much more CS than Morgana.
Champions who on average don't earn a lot of minion kills usually do not need much CS to be useful. Instead, they are able to scale easily off their abilities alone.
In either case, work to do better than the values shown here to do well. If you want to see Veigar x Morgana tips and builds for a a distinct skill level, feel free to choose one from the selection menu shown above.
At first, the statistics and strategies shown are computed using every match run with these champions. MOBA Champion. Kayle Top. Cho'Gath Top.
Graves Top. Janna Support. Tahm Kench Top. Gnar Top. Wukong Top. Ashe AD Carry. Garen Top. Xin Zhao Jungler. Lucian AD Carry. Nautilus Support.
Shaco Jungler. Riven Top. Zilean Support. Ornn Top. Shen Top. Jax Top. Nasus Top. Zyra Support. Jhin AD Carry. Warwick Jungler. Xerath Support. Nami Support. Lulu Support. Pyke Support. Blitzcrank Support. Sona Support. Nidalee Jungler. Master Yi Jungler. Veigar wins more against Name Winrate. Level your Q to three or so for effective lasthitting, and after that W for effective Counterpushing against Morgana. Hope for a better lategame, as If you've farmed well enough, you can crap on her with your burst.
Also, focus in the early-midgame on heavy lane ganking, as your stun is one of the longest in the game. I play Veigar as my main champ and I love laning against Morgana. I agree with a lot of what has been said already but at first glance some of it seems contradictory you need to farm but you also should harass. Early game Veigar should be able to trade much better than Morgana if you can dodge her skill shot movement speed quints!
If you can successfully do this then you can sometimes zone her out or force her to back early which can get you an early CS advantage. If you watch Nyjacky he definitely does this see video below. If you can constantly keep Morgana low and out-trade her you have a good chance of getting a kill once you hit level 6 because you bait out her shield with E and then just Q, R, Ignite once its down. Now come mid-game the trouble is that she can push the lane hard even if she is behind. So here leveling up your W so that you can push just as hard can be very helpful.
Again you can still harass with your Q which might force her to use her Spellshield leaving her open to your combo afterwards. You also need to be aware of who on the enemy team has tenacity boots which might then make leveling E up to 3 or 4 first a priority. And never underestimate the power of auto-attacking as part of your harass again just watch nyjacky in the video.
The other thing that can mis-lead Veigar players is his Q passive farming up AP with last hits. If you don't harass with Q and you get pushed up to your tower constantly you will lose your lane and it doesn't matter how much AP you get from your Q. Playing passively and not harassing will lead to losing your lane more often than not.
Here is a video of Crs Nyjacky playing Veigar vs Morgana. I think one thing that is striking about Nyjacky's play is how much he uses his Q to harass early on. I know you can't mimic his play move for move, but if you pay attention to his general strategy you can start to practice that. No one wins against Morgana, it's just a farm lane, since she will spellshield stuff you throw at her and she sits back while her pool farms for her, so it's really hard to win versus her as any AP mids, but what you can do is bait her to use her shield then you can pretty much do whatever you want to against her for about 15 seconds.
But just farm more then her and try to secure kills in other lanes and make moves toward obectives, thats how you truly win versus Morgana and any other mid.
If she wants to prevent harass, she'll use her black shield which takes a HUGE chunk of her mana. Learn the cool-down of her black shield, your best bet is to pretend to go in on her, force her to black shield, then come back before her shield is back up.
Well, as you've probably discovered the key to veigar is using the stun to land W and then popping other skills as necessary. Because Morgana's black shield blocks crowd control, it's tricky to hit your W and therefore you lose significant damage. Try to do fake aggressive plays so she wastes shield and then go in for a combo. If you're struggling to kill her - roam and see what you can pick up on other lanes. However, Morgana was kindof designed vs champs like Veigar so you're going to have a hard time.
Just because someone like nyjacky did really well doesn't mean that's a favourable lane. Take Froggen. This does not mean that if you play anivia you will win all matchups. With that said, I don't mean to sound negative. As you play more Morgana's you'll start getting used to her and will eventually win most games. Best of luck, Raf.
These guys are right morgana forces you into a farm lane, as shes pretty safe and you can't push and roam as she can push the lane back fast. Key to beating her is mobility imo, champs like ahri, vlad, fizz can evade her ult and retaliate well. Unfortunately for you veigar is not the best pick vs her as she black shield shuts you down hard. Don't play aggressive at all.
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